Comments on: The Mother of All Color Charts http://xkedata.com/blog/2009/12/07/the-mother-of-all-color-charts/ Latest News on the Data Sites Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lester http://xkedata.com/blog/2009/12/07/the-mother-of-all-color-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-6573 Lester Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:08:26 +0000 http://xkedata.com/blog/?p=364#comment-6573 Let me chime in on two things: First, NONE of the color codes listed on any site (Most seem to be duplicated) for Opalescent Dark Green cross reference to anything modern, even by the same manufacturer. Second, the paint shop down here has ORIGINAL COLOR CHIP GUIDES going back at least to my '66. Lester Let me chime in on two things:

First, NONE of the color codes listed on any site (Most seem to be duplicated) for Opalescent Dark Green cross reference to anything modern, even by the same manufacturer.

Second, the paint shop down here has ORIGINAL COLOR CHIP GUIDES going back at least to my ’66.

Lester

]]> By: Carl Madson http://xkedata.com/blog/2009/12/07/the-mother-of-all-color-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-6155 Carl Madson Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:34:46 +0000 http://xkedata.com/blog/?p=364#comment-6155 I'd like to recommend a few things, any of which could make this effort even more useful: --------------- - Define a reference color chart (e.g., MacBeth ColorChecker). - Provide a reasonable way for users to get a color chart (e.g., purchase, but a fair price). - When taking a set of pictures or scanning, include the color chart in one of them (in the same lighting). - Include data fields for the paint vendor and line used and/or the full paint code. - Standardize the color names in entry fields (or indicate when they're custom). - Provide color conversion tools that indicate whether a conversion is exact or not. (Some colors in System A aren't available in System B.) - Provide color conversion tools that include the reference chart colors, or at least a set of colors which are provided as accessible samples (such as PPG paint chips/cards). ----------------- XKEData was very helpful in general when I was trying to find the right color, but variations in lighting in the photos made it difficult to tell what was due to the paint and what came from the lighting. Taking a shot of a known color reference at the same time in the same lighting could help users compensate for the lighting effects. The same problem can occur when scanning colors. One scan should include the color chart. The names of many colors (mainly reds) also vary quite a bit (Maroon, Dark Red, Claret, etc.) and so it's again hard to use any of them as a true reference. (This may always be a problem.) If someone is willing to share their paint code (including the paint vendor and type/line), others could have samples painted on real material, locally, and bypass the variability of displayed colors online. If the conversion tool would convert to standard and locally available paint chips/samples, users could pick those up or order them and see how well they will work on the real car and with the other colors to be used. I’d like to recommend a few things, any of which could make this effort even more useful:

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- Define a reference color chart (e.g., MacBeth ColorChecker).
- Provide a reasonable way for users to get a color chart (e.g., purchase, but a fair price).
- When taking a set of pictures or scanning, include the color chart in one of them (in the same lighting).

- Include data fields for the paint vendor and line used and/or the full paint code.

- Standardize the color names in entry fields (or indicate when they’re custom).

- Provide color conversion tools that indicate whether a conversion is exact or not. (Some colors in System A aren’t available in System B.)

- Provide color conversion tools that include the reference chart colors, or at least a set of colors which are provided as accessible samples (such as PPG paint chips/cards).
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XKEData was very helpful in general when I was trying to find the right color, but variations in lighting in the photos made it difficult to tell what was due to the paint and what came from the lighting. Taking a shot of a known color reference at the same time in the same lighting could help users compensate for the lighting effects. The same problem can occur when scanning colors. One scan should include the color chart.

The names of many colors (mainly reds) also vary quite a bit (Maroon, Dark Red, Claret, etc.) and so it’s again hard to use any of them as a true reference. (This may always be a problem.)

If someone is willing to share their paint code (including the paint vendor and type/line), others could have samples painted on real material, locally, and bypass the variability of displayed colors online.

If the conversion tool would convert to standard and locally available paint chips/samples, users could pick those up or order them and see how well they will work on the real car and with the other colors to be used.

]]> By: Neil Purves http://xkedata.com/blog/2009/12/07/the-mother-of-all-color-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-6132 Neil Purves Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:03:34 +0000 http://xkedata.com/blog/?p=364#comment-6132 Roger, I got a good contact in PPG Europe who supplied me the weights of each of the componants of Pearlescent Dark Green. I can try to push to get some of the others if that is useful for anyone? Let me know and I will sound him out. Cheers Neil Roger, I got a good contact in PPG Europe who supplied me the weights of each of the componants of Pearlescent Dark Green. I can try to push to get some of the others if that is useful for anyone?
Let me know and I will sound him out.

Cheers
Neil

]]> By: Stefano Rota http://xkedata.com/blog/2009/12/07/the-mother-of-all-color-charts/comment-page-1/#comment-6130 Stefano Rota Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:35:20 +0000 http://xkedata.com/blog/?p=364#comment-6130 Hello, I'm the owner of XK120 OTS vin #660747, presently subject to a complete frame off restoration. My car was one of only twelve sent to Ireland as CKD kit (Completely Knocked Down); the car was sent to Ireland unsprayed. All official records report Bronze as its original color, both JDHT and first registration book. During its previous life the car was resprayed firstly Red, then White. When stripped down during the restoration project I've started last year, we found underneath evidences of the original Bronze colour, slightly different from the Official Jaguar colour. We carefully analized those samples, and the result is showed in the pictures loaded on XK Data. Let me know if I can contribute with others additional information on the matter. Ciao Stefano. Hello,
I’m the owner of XK120 OTS vin #660747, presently subject to a complete frame off restoration.
My car was one of only twelve sent to Ireland as CKD kit (Completely Knocked Down); the car was sent to Ireland unsprayed.
All official records report Bronze as its original color, both JDHT and first registration book. During its previous life the car was resprayed firstly Red, then White.

When stripped down during the restoration project I’ve started last year, we found underneath evidences of the original Bronze colour, slightly different from the Official Jaguar colour.
We carefully analized those samples, and the result is showed in the pictures loaded on XK Data.
Let me know if I can contribute with others additional information on the matter.

Ciao Stefano.

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